Comments on: Conservatives and conservatives http://www.uclconservatives.co.uk/2007/01/20/conservatives-and-conservatives/ Website of the UCL Conservative Society: promoting the Conservative Party at UCL since 1910 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:15:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Oliver Cooper http://www.uclconservatives.co.uk/2007/01/20/conservatives-and-conservatives/#comment-136 Oliver Cooper Sun, 28 Jan 2007 19:02:08 +0000 http://www.uclconservatives.co.uk/2007/01/20/conservatives-and-conservatives/#comment-136 You're confusing the issues by relying, again, on a US-style dichotomy; our political spectrum is so far removed from the United States that such a comparison is nowhere near as straight-forward as you make it out to be. When one says that an American politician is opposed to abortion (i.e. so-called 'pro-life', or, more aptly, anti-choice), it doesn't mean that they favour reducing the abortion limit by a few weeks, as is the case with Liam Fox, Iain Duncan Smith, and John Reid. It means that they want to outlaw abortion: sometimes allowing it in cases that would save the prospective mother's life, or when the carrying woman is a rape victim, but often refusing to approve of it in any circumstance, no matter how horrendous. That puts many prominent Republicans firmly to the whack-job side of almost all British politicians, and certainly miles away from the liberal conservative party that we're trying to create out of the ashes of the reactionary party that Ann Widdecombe represents. When one removes Fox, IDS, and Reid from your list, it leaves a mix of extremists that, even if they are from both sides of the spectrum, don't belong anywhere near me, David Cameron, or our party. You’re confusing the issues by relying, again, on a US-style dichotomy; our political spectrum is so far removed from the United States that such a comparison is nowhere near as straight-forward as you make it out to be. When one says that an American politician is opposed to abortion (i.e. so-called ‘pro-life’, or, more aptly, anti-choice), it doesn’t mean that they favour reducing the abortion limit by a few weeks, as is the case with Liam Fox, Iain Duncan Smith, and John Reid. It means that they want to outlaw abortion: sometimes allowing it in cases that would save the prospective mother’s life, or when the carrying woman is a rape victim, but often refusing to approve of it in any circumstance, no matter how horrendous.

That puts many prominent Republicans firmly to the whack-job side of almost all British politicians, and certainly miles away from the liberal conservative party that we’re trying to create out of the ashes of the reactionary party that Ann Widdecombe represents. When one removes Fox, IDS, and Reid from your list, it leaves a mix of extremists that, even if they are from both sides of the spectrum, don’t belong anywhere near me, David Cameron, or our party.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.uclconservatives.co.uk/2007/01/20/conservatives-and-conservatives/#comment-135 Patrick Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:29:06 +0000 http://www.uclconservatives.co.uk/2007/01/20/conservatives-and-conservatives/#comment-135 You'll find a lot of MPs who don't believe in abortion either or all different stripes: John Reid, Ruth Kelly, IDS, Liam Fox, George Galloway, Ann Widdecombe, Peter Kilfoyle. I challenge you to find another issue that unites this group... You’ll find a lot of MPs who don’t believe in abortion either or all different stripes: John Reid, Ruth Kelly, IDS, Liam Fox, George Galloway, Ann Widdecombe, Peter Kilfoyle. I challenge you to find another issue that unites this group…

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